BI101 Introducing Biblical Interpretation: Contexts and Resources
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A discussion group for people working through Logos Mobile Education's BI101 course.Follow
- There is one resource called up a lot in this course (Introduction to Biblical Interpretation 2004) which is not available for purchase on logos. Only the 3rd edition 2017 is available for purchase. Will the course references be updated to the newer edition as part of normal updates?
- The course should already be updated to include links to the 3rd edition. We kept the links to the first edition in the course so people who own it don't feel like they have to buy the newer one, so you should see links to both editions in the course.
- Response to BI101 Let me first start by saying that Michael Heiser is a really good teacher. The way he arranged this course was very good and the flow of the course was well thought out. Though I’ve already heard a lot of it earlier in other contexts, his segments were so dense that I felt I got the most relevant information in a very short time. First of all his 10 obstacles were a good starting point. Though no obstacle came as a surprise, it is very good to hear Michael’s thoughts on them and to hear them all put together. I almost wish every Christian should learn about them. As Michael put it: “To think is to interpret”, and it is my opinion that we today think a lot when we read the Bible. I think the Bible too often is treated simply as something you can do whatever you want with. Sometimes I wish Christians, and especially Christian leaders, should think more of the Bible as something that requires deep study to fully understand. I’m not against the Bible meaning something personal to someone reading the text. (I often find God speaking to me personally through Scripture and it edifies me in my walk with Jesus, though I don’t make any theological claims from my personal words.) Too often, however, Christians don’t stay there but make bigger assumptions and interpret the text theologically and claim that they have “figured out” what the text really means. I find this to be especially true concerning prophetic texts from the Old Testament or the Book of Revelation. Coming from Europe I’m not a part of North American culture so I don’t know how people in the USA and Canada think in general about these things, but I’m almost overwhelmed by all the “prophetic” people from North America I see on Youtube claiming to know what the prophetic parts of the Bible “really” mean. I wish they all would at least have some humility and realize that the prophetic parts of the Bible were written in a different time, by people from a different culture having a different worldview. Michael’s segments on “Interpreting Prophetic Literature” really addressed this issue and that’s also something I wish every Christian should hear. I know Michael is doing a big job trying to address this issue (interpreting Bible prophecy in an arbitrary way) and for that he is to be thanked. I have worked with the prophecies in the Bible from both a futurist perspective and a preterist perspective and I know it’s not always easy to tell how to interpret Bible prophecy. Therefore I really enjoyed Michael’s distinction between prophetic and apocalyptic texts. I have never seen such an easy-to-understand chart with them both lined up next to each other. Normally people mix up the prophetic with the apocalyptic (moving all the prophetic parts in to the far future), or people mix up the apocalyptic with the prophetic (moving all the apocalyptic parts into the destruction of the temple either by the Babylonians 587 BC or by the Romans 70 AD). The tools Michael provides will help people interpret the prophetic and apocalyptic parts of the Bible better, and hopefully will end all crazy interpretations circulating in the Body of Christ. As Michael brilliantly shows by comparing Amos 9 and Acts 15, interpreting biblical prophecy is even harder than we normally think because sometimes the text is not to be taken literal (as we think of “literal”) or with a single intent. The prophecy of David’s booth being raised up shows us that the apostles interpreted OT prophecies with nuance and complexity. The sensus plenior, analogical fulfillment, and typological fulfillment were as important when they interpreted prophecies as were the “literal” fulfillment. How I wish that more Christians would realize this. My last words will be on the 3 contexts Michael introduced. It’s not something new he talks about but once he again he talks with clarity and simplicity. All three contexts must be combined and studied, not just one of them. I think the average Christian often ends up studying one context. You might be interested in the background of the Bible, studying the worldview context. Or you might be interested in the linguistic context and study how words are used in the Bible. How important to study all three of these contexts, and I’m especially glad Michael spent so much time on the literary context since this is often neglected by me personally. I will now move on to other courses about biblical interpretation, and this course laid a very good foundation for me. Kind regards / Henrik
- Hopefully someone can help me here. When you finish the course for one of the certifications, do people usually post the 750 word response paper publicly on this forum? Or can you do a private post? Also do people usually do a review, summary, or a personally "what did I learn from this" paper of the course? I would be thankful for the some direction in this area.
- From January 13, 2020 to June 4, 2020 I had the honor of doing the revised edition of BI101 Introducing Bible Interpretation. Frankly, BI101 the Logos 5 edition was one of the very first courses I obtained back in 2013 and I have completed it many times. The revised version stripped out the Logos Pro Screencasts of which I absolutely love and adore because it has helped me tremendously complete tasks with Logos Bible Software. I would give Dr. Heiser’s education and job at this point but I did that for another course so I will not do it here. I had read Dr. Heiser is now a Children’s minister working in a church in Florida. In all the courses I have seen from Dr. Heiser to include BI101 he starts with Obstacles to Interpretation and says we need to be aware of all these obstacles when we study. They are presuppositions, author, reader, medium, meaning, translation, precedent, context, relevance, and validation. He will explain what all these mean in the course so I am not going to explain them here since I have a limit on the amount of words I may use. In one of our readings from Grasping God’s Word the author’s touched on the topic of Covenant and that is a topic I am currently revising myself by reading Kingdom Through Covenant. I used to be dispensational but after college I disbanded that belief and started investigating the topic of Covenant for my own edification and for my own theology I would say is right in the middle of dispensational and covenant theology. Dr. Heiser next turned to Context. Throughout the entire course he reminded us that Context is King. But he says context is competency and everything the biblical authors wrote contribute to what they are trying to communicate. Heiser talked about Historical, Cultural, and Religious contexts. Dr. Heiser turned to worldview, literary, and linguistic context and that takes us to the end of the course where he talked about application and gave his conclusion. However, in the worldview context he gave us tools that are helpful for context. Primary Sources, Reference Works, Academic Monographs, Bible Commentaries, Journals Articles, and Digital Resources. With commentaries he talked about Devotional, Expositional, and Scholarly Commentaries. For literary context he talked about genres of the bible in the Old and New Testaments to include the difference between prophecy and apocalyptic. For linguistic context he talked about word level and working at it with word-level analysis. In the Logos 5 edition of BI101 there are screencasts from the Logos Pros. These screencasts have been stripped from the revised edition. But over time I have enjoyed the Logos Pro screencasts and was disappointed to see them taken out in the revised edition. Those screencasts are practical and extremely helpful and frankly I have used them to learn about Logos Bible Software things I would never have learned in any other way. I search the pros name to find the training from Mobile Education they have done and do those segments over and over until I am a master of the information and how to do things with the software. It is very unfortunate when a Mobile Ed course does not have those training videos from the Logos Pros. I highly recommend Faithlife produce Logos training videos from the Logos Pros for every Mobile Education course. If I remember correctly, Todd Bishop did the training videos in the Logos 5 edition. The training videos were in line with the course segments. Things Dr. Heiser talked about Todd showed a great way to collect and investigate those things. In the revised edition users will now need to figure those things out themselves. It is my experience Logos Bible Software has a learning curve, and the Logos Pro videos are immensely helpful to take away that curve. Dr. Heiser said his task was to alert us to various obstacles that we will run into as interpreter’s. He said that seeing the biblical text is more than just reading it. I read the bible every day of every year. But then I study a book using the techniques Dr. Heiser teaches and consider all the obstacles and contexts he mentions. I am grateful for Logos Bible Software to help with that task. I could do the same task with print resources, but it would be terribly slow and tedious. Logos Bible Software has revolutionized bible study for the church. And for that I am grateful.
- Glad you enjoyed the course. I wanted to quickly address the screencast issue you brought up. I'm sorry you are disappointed that the revised version of BI101 doesn't include screencast videos. A number of years ago we decided to start including Activities resource with all our courses instead of screencasts. These resources include a number of "Challenges" that are meant to replicate what the screencasts provided. These challenges are mostly text based, but they do link to more general screencast videos (as well as the Logos Help resource) showing how to use the specific aspect of Logos needed to complete the challenge. One of the main reasons for the change is because of how often the software changes. The screencasts you mentioned were made for Logos 5, and, while some of them may still be applicable, much of what they show would not be helpful for new users (and if fact, would be confusing). Updating screencast videos for our courses every time a new version of Logos is released is a nearly impossible task (we have over 260 courses now), and selling courses with videos showing a six year old version of the software isn't ideal (we are in the process of updating our older courses to include Activities resources). The Challenges in our Activities resources may not be quite as helpful as original screencasts scripted and recorded specifically for a course, but they are much easier to update since they are primarily text with links. Also, they do not need to be updated as frequently since the text of the challenge typically still works even if how the challenge can be completed changes. The Activities resources also offer additional places for you to reflect on what you have learned from each segment.
- I understand Miles and for the first couple of courses I have completed in the certificate programs I have failed to use the activities folder for now, but in about 4 more months courses I do I will complete the activities folder. Truth is those screencasts for earlier versions still apply, but I will give the activities book a chance later this year.
- The suggest reading refers to an older version of Introduction to Biblical Interpretation, but I purchased the current Third edition. Is there any way for you to update the suggested reading to point the current edition instead of the old version? Thanks!
Angela Meister — EditedHi, I am just starting this course and was looking at all of the readings in the list at the beginning in the Course Tool. This book clearly stood out as being referenced quite a bit. Is it necessary for the course? Will I be missing out on a large portion if I don't have it? Our library has the lectures and workbook online, but not the text. I am also wondering if I would even know where to read within a hard copy (which I may be able to check out) if I didn't own it inside of Logos....
- Hi, Angela. I've found that if a resource is used only once or twice, I don't seem to have trouble understanding the course without it. But a major resource which is referred to often in probably important. So I usually buy it from Logos, but if you can get a library copy, you can probably figure out where in the book to read. It'll just take a bit longer. Also, I use the "read aloud" feature and listen to the resources rather than read word for word. It's much faster, yet a trifle frustrating because the "reader" mispronounces some information. But I've adapted to it.
- Segment 66 studying at the word level. I really like the "Important Words" section of the Passage Guide. It really takes you to the Exegetical Word level tools quickly. See my screenshot.
- I just purchased the Biblical Interpretation: Foundational Certificate Program. Any advice on how to approach this? Thanks.
- I would say BI101 or BI103 would be the best starting points. The order you work through the courses is entirely up to you. I would recommend taking BI101 and BI103 before OT201 OT Genres and BI260 NT Genres. BI181 Interpreting Bible Translations and BI201 The Story of the Bible stand alone a bit more, so you can work through them in any sequence. I hope you find the courses and the certificate program helpful and encouraging!
- Awesome! I excited to get started.
- Find Chiasm in the Psalms with Psalm Explorer. Very Cool. Segment 57. There is a filter for it and for themes. See my screenshot.
- Correction, Segment 49 below.
- I am enjoying the Old Testament in the New Testament interactive for doing the activities in segment 42. I have added a screenshot of Matthew 5 in the OT. A very nice visual tool for seeing the cross references side by side!