• I would not look at it is ethical and good business practice for any company to do what Logos does in how they show discount under packages that don't really reflect the bottom line percentage of discount someone will get if they buy the remaining books in that series or package. It bothers me more that this is being done with a company promoting it self as run by Christians. Some people will understand what is happening and have no problem but some customers I think are not getting the great deal they think they are when they buy. To me listing the discount price the way you continue to do at the least it has the appearance of It is deceptive and it makes me feelings wise not want to buy from you and for sure not want to recommend you. I have to work harder to see how good of a deal am I actually getting. As a customer that leaves a bad taste in my mouth and takes away trusting Logos to put my reputation on the lien to recommend you. I also don't like the fact that if I recommend Logos to people that they might end up not getting a future upgrade and the books they have bought they might not be able to see on their computer if they don't keep paying money for upgrades. I frankly don't think I would bought Logos if I knew that when I started. When you buy a physical book, you for sure always have use of it. I know computer programs are like that but I was focused on the idea I was buying books and with books I never had a problem of needing support to read them I don't mind Logos charging more for books that I can get at Amazon, because it leaves us with the choice of whether we want it to function with Logos or not. With Amazon and some companies buying it electronic version of the book is cheaper than buying a physical paper copy. So I wish the extra price we pay in buying from Logos would include guaranteeing support for it functioning as long as logos is in business. Most people I think like I did when I originally bought thought the money saved by the seller in this case Logos not having to send out physical book would include for sure ongoing support for me being able to use the book. I have stated this on the phone numerous times but obviously until more people tell Logos they have the same opinion, Logos will continue to do the same thing they have been doing.
    1. Thanks for your feed back:) We differ on many things it would seem and I would love to reply back in full to your comments but would rather do it on the phone if you are willing. My number is 770-831-8728, and you can call any time. I am not great at communicating in writing but I will try to write a short response to some of what you wrote. I think when we write out our opinion as I did and you did in response to what I wrote, that we are both making judgments. At this point I think I following the standard I hold others to and not using a different standard for myself than I am for others. The standard I think we should all go by: I think God made our minds to make judgments of what we read, hear .... Now God holds us individually accountable to being fair with the information we have been given and requires we also make judgement with godly attitude. Please help me if I am misunderstanding you but your words makes me think you think it is wrong to make judgments. What amazes me is that you think only I am doing so and that only I am wrong to do so. To me this is like lost people who get on to Christians for being intolerant and judgmental if Christians say the Jesus is the only way to avoid hell. The lost person has no problem telling the Christian they can't make absolute statements and judgement of whether other people are wrong in their opinion but yet the lost person is doing both in their condemnation of the Christian. I hope you will read your last paragraph to me and ask God to show you if you doing what you accuse me of, and failing to first take the beam out of your eye before you help try to help fix my eye. As I have stated I think there are few things wrong in what you wrote but would rather deal with them verbally on the phone if you are open to do so. I have been wrong in the past and changed my perspective and am willing to do so now in what I previously wrote and am writing in this response. I am open to learning from you and seeing where I am falling short but need more help to see this, than with what I understand from what you wrote to me. I hope you will call me so can talk verbally and that we end up with both of us being in unity in truth, and with a good attitude.
      1. Does not hold to teaching God's commands in 1 Cor. that women should have long hair, and that men are commanded to go after speaking up in the church service. A plain bible believing reading of 1 Cor. 12-14 shows that today's church services don't follow God's instructions of how God wants a church service to be conducted. How have we arrived at the place were the modern church service today is accepted as biblical? I think Martin Luther's words give the answer. " I have observed that all the heresies and errors have arisen not from Scripture's own plain statements, but when that plainness of statement is ignored, and men follow the Scholastic arguments of their own brains" .
        1. Does not hold to teaching God's commands in 1 Cor. that women should have long hair, and that men are commanded to go after speaking up in the church service. A plain bible believing reading of 1 Cor. 12-14 shows that today's church services don't follow God's instructions of how God wants a church service to be conducted. How have we arrived at the place were the modern church service today is accepted as biblical? I think Martin Luther's words give the answer. " I have observed that all the heresies and errors have arisen not from Scripture's own plain statements, but when that plainness of statement is ignored, and men follow the Scholastic arguments of their own brains" .
          1. Does not hold to teaching God's commands in 1 Cor. that women should have long hair, and that men are commanded to go after speaking up in the church service. A plain bible believing reading of 1 Cor. 12-14 shows that today's church services don't follow God's instructions of how God wants a church service to be conducted. How have we arrived at the place were the modern church service today is accepted as biblical? I think Martin Luther's words give the answer. " I have observed that all the heresies and errors have arisen not from Scripture's own plain statements, but when that plainness of statement is ignored, and men follow the Scholastic arguments of their own brains" .
            1. Lawrence, With respect, this is an incredibly short-sighted review / response that ignores the nature of overall scripture over the course of time. Your intentions are pure, no doubt; however, your obstinacy to understand how God works with humanity at their own level (rather than expecting them to operate as his level) -- to meet them where they're at and speak in ways in which they understand at their time and in their place -- will generally cause incorrect views and understandings about who God is, and what He wants / expects from us. It will, in-fact, often cause you to misunderstand many portions of His word and, if that wasn't enough, relay incorrect messages to others, thereby causing them to be choked-out by "thorns" (Matt. 13:7). If you wanted to limit to only a plain reading, then you should be following all of the 613 commandments of the Torah, since Jesus stated explicitly that every last pen-stroke of the law will last until Heaven and Earth pass away (which, btw, are still here) and, furthermore, He said that only those who keep every ounce of the Torah (i.e. pen-stroke) and who teach others to do the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 5:17-19), which is why he came to fulfill / uphold / practice the law, and did not abolish one iota from it. Likewise, compare John 14:21, 23; or very importantly, 1st John 2:3-6 (and many more). And by this, you should be wearing Tzit-Tziot (i.e. blue tassels) and much more. All of Messianic Judaism is built around this premise -- that the Torah is obligatory until Heaven and Earth pass away. And this is based on a plain reading of scripture. On the other hand, a plain reading of scripture also tells you that there was a global flood, yet, even with the textual contradictions (and there are reasons for that), and while ignoring deeper scientific evidence about it, we can know from basic logic that there couldn't be a global deluge, namely, because the Ark is said to have rested on Mt. Ararat with all land animals for the Earth, yet all marsupials somehow knew to head across the Levant, across Eurasia, across the Himalayas, across South-East Asia / modern-day China, then swam across the South China Sea and Indian Ocean, all the way to Australia, and doing that without going anywhere else on Earth, and without leaving a single skeleton along the way. So how would they know to do that all-together? And how did they know not to go anywhere else on Earth? And how did they not die along the way? And how did they swim across the ocean (can Kangaroos and Koala Bears swim that well)?? Instead, if we understand the Flood narrative as a parable-ethical type of store (just like parables Jesus told), we can see it being a story about sin, falling away from God, as well as punishment, mercy, forgiveness, and rebirth / renewal. That holds a very beautiful and meaningful message for us to better understand what kind of God it is we serve. But if you limit it to a plain reading, you not only diminish that beauty and meaning, you also cause a stumbling block for your brethren who have enough sense to see it can't be what you're claiming (i.e. literal history), and thus conclude the entire Bible must be a sham. If you think that's okay, or if you're justifying to yourself that it's their fault, I urge you to read 1 Cor. 8:13. The Bible is as the Bible does. It is whatever it is, because it's God's word to us. If we tell God what His Word can or can't be, then we have in essence placed ourselves at his level, if not above him, in authority. That's a dangerous place to be, and not one where I want to be. Instead, we should always be willing to learn more about who God is, and what His Word says, and what His Word is. He is so in-exhaustively complex, we can never be done learning about Him, and I think he's laid out His Word for us in such a way that even 2,000 years later we can continue learning new things about it, and about Him. I'd strongly urge you Lawrence to reconsider your judgmental attitude, and to reconsider the concept of an "only a plain reading" approach. It doesn't seem to be helping you with love toward others (based on this approach), nor in mercy and patience, but driving you toward judgmentalism and incorrect understandings. Very respectfully, - Jim
          2. Does not hold to teaching God's commands in 1 Cor. that women should have long hair, and that men are commanded to go after speaking up in the church service. A plain bible believing reading of 1 Cor. 12-14 shows that today's church services don't follow God's instructions of how God wants a church service to be conducted. How have we arrived at the place were the modern church service today is accepted as biblical? I think Martin Luther's words give the answer. " I have observed that all the heresies and errors have arisen not from Scripture's own plain statements, but when that plainness of statement is ignored, and men follow the Scholastic arguments of their own brains" .
            1. Does not hold to teaching God's commands in 1 Cor. that women should have long hair, and that men are commanded to go after speaking up in the church service. A plain bible believing reading of 1 Cor. 12-14 shows that today's church services don't follow God's instructions of how God wants a church service to be conducted. How have we arrived at the place were the modern church service today is accepted as biblical? I think Martin Luther's words give the answer. " I have observed that all the heresies and errors have arisen not from Scripture's own plain statements, but when that plainness of statement is ignored, and men follow the Scholastic arguments of their own brains" .
              1. Does not hold to teaching God's commands in 1 Cor. that women should have long hair, and that men are commanded to go after speaking up in the church service. A plain bible believing reading of 1 Cor. 12-14 shows that today's church services don't follow God's instructions of how God wants a church service to be conducted. How have we arrived at the place were the modern church service today is accepted as biblical? I think Martin Luther's words give the answer. " I have observed that all the heresies and errors have arisen not from Scripture's own plain statements, but when that plainness of statement is ignored, and men follow the Scholastic arguments of their own brains" .
                1. Does not hold to teaching God's commands in 1 Cor. that women should have long hair, and that men are commanded to go after speaking up in the church service. A plain bible believing reading of 1 Cor. 12-14 shows that today's church services don't follow God's instructions of how God wants a church service to be conducted. How have we arrived at the place were the modern church service today is accepted as biblical? I think Martin Luther's words give the answer. " I have observed that all the heresies and errors have arisen not from Scripture's own plain statements, but when that plainness of statement is ignored, and men follow the Scholastic arguments of their own brains" .