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  • Robert
    3 years ago

    Aug.10th 2022, just started today as part of a certificate course. Really interested...

    1. Pam Larson
      4 years ago

      In segment 46, discussing the Johannine comma, Heiser says: "Now, verse 8 [says], “The Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree.” Now, what’s the issue here? In Erasmus’ first edition, that verse, verse 8, was not in his edition, and that’s because it is then and even today considered inauthentic [in] that it does not belong in the original Greek NT." Isn't this the one authentic part of verse 8? I even checked the Codex Sinaiticus and it's there. Did Heiser get confused here?

      1. Raymond Bliven
        4 years ago

        In Segments 37, 61, and 85, there are suggested readings named "Reading Link 2" which are not linked to anything. Are these superfluous leftovers from a template, or should there be readings listed there that were never set up?

        1. Pablo Salazar Rivera
          4 years ago — Edited

          I don't know if someone could help me. Where is the list of the readings of this course? Thank you.

          1. Jason Stone 4 years ago

            In this group — take a look under Bible Study, Documents: https://faithlife.com/nt281/documents
            How We Got the New Testament
            A discussion group for people working through Logos Mobile Education's NT281 course.
            faithlife.com

          2. Robert 3 years ago

            It states : You do not have a copy of this document.

        2. Sims
          5 years ago

          This course has listed as a suggested resource - From God to Us: How we got our Bible. I purchased the resource only to find out the course is still licked to the 1974 version and not the 2012 version available in Logos. The 1974 isn't available for sale in Logos. Can this be updated?
          From God To Us Revised and Expanded: How We Got Our Bible
          The Bible was written in multiple languages by dozens of authors whose lives spanned a period of more than fifteen hundred years. How did it all come together? Best-selling authors Norman Geisler and William Nix thoroughly answer this question and many more in this revised and expanded edition of a classic which has sold more than 78,000 copies. Helpful charts, photos, and indices have been added, rendering this book ideally suited for Bible students, pastors, and professors.
          www.logos.com

          1. Faithlife User 5 years ago

            Yes, I have added links to the newer version in the source files for NT281 and OT281. It will take some time to go through the update process and get re-published. I also updated the notes files in this group.

          2. Robert 3 years ago

            OK thanks

        3. Sims
          5 years ago

          In Segment 22 on of the "See Also" readings is on the Septuagint and seems to reference the book Textual Criticism of the Bible. I have the revised edition put out by Lexham Press but that does pull out and the Logos Site says it doesn't sell the product any longer. I am wondering if this is something that can be fixed?

          1. NB.Mick 5 years ago

            courses typically refer to a specific edition of a suggested book, since the content could change radically in the next edition. In this case (I own both editions) the wording changed only very minimal, so you should be good reading the revised edition of chapter 3.2.2 and 3.2.2a (noting that the first edition gave more additional information and a commented bibliography of further study material for the LXX). In some such cases FL updated a course to include links to both editions. You could suggest this in the mobile Ed subforum.

        4. James Taylor
          9 years ago

          Big Picture or Details?
          I agree that the result is that the contents of Scripture are inspired but nevertheless it would bring a certain nuance out to discover whether or not Paul was emphasizing the details (every part) or summarizing about the collective whole. There are certain pastoral implications of preferring the emphatic attention to segments or detail, in contrast to what I would consider the more common interpretation at this point of the passage. For example, justifying the importance of fine-tooth-combing the Word for minutiae and seeking to bring application to even obscurities therein, as distinct from the typical over-simplification/big-picturizing which our culture is more and more hungry for. In my opinion we often tend to be intellectually lazy anymore and therefor we need all the exhortation we can get to get back to "every part" of the text, not just our favorite topics.
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          2 Timothy 3:161, 2 Timothy, Titus
          3:16 Paul’s observation about the effect of Scripture in Timothy’s life led him to make an assertion about the inspiration and usefulness of Scripture. We must not view Paul as attempting to inform Timothy of the inspiration of Scripture. Timothy had heard this truth since childhood. Paul was reminding Timothy that Scripture was profitable and “that the basis of its profitableness lies in its inspired character.”47 For additional discussion on the subject of the inspiration of Scripture, see Excursus
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          1. Simon’s Brother
            9 years ago

            Montgomery on God's Inerrant Word
            http://www.ccel.us/godsinerrantword.toc.html
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            The King James Version Debate: A Plea for Realism
            his work is readily available
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            1. Robert 3 years ago

              Seems to be a good book so far. I am half way through it.

          2. Simon’s Brother
            9 years ago

            NABVR updated link
            www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php/1996/09/01/new-age-bible-versions-refuted/
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            The King James Only Controversy: Can You Trust Modern Translations?
            a booklet refuting her book
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            1. Simon’s Brother
              10 years ago

              Johannine Comma
              See reading list for this topic for links to additional information. logos4:ReadingLists;list=Johannine_Comma!MJ_Smith!https:$2F$2Ftopics.logos.com$2FJohannine$5FComma!0
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              NT281 How We Got the New Testament
              : Formal equiva
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