• I'm not sure were to download the notes for this course?
    1. Logos Bible Software, Platinum Edition. To download a Notes document that highlights the readings for this course, join the NT305 Faithlife group: https://faithlife.com/nt305. Moo, D. J. (2015). NT305 New Testament Theology. Lexham Press. Notes document?
      1. Apples and Oranges? What Do We Mean When We Use These Words?
        I think we confuse redemption, salvation, deliverance, ransom, and other phrases when we engage conversations like this. In other words, the means of salvation is a different discussion than being delivered from slavery. I think this confusion is aided when we believe that the way to salvation for God's people in the OT is different than the way to salvation after the resurrection. If there was a way to salvation in the OT without the necessity of the sacrifice of Christ, the the Cross of Christ loses it's power - even for us today. We see that God's action, in redeeming Israel from Egypt, did not preclude Israel from turning from God in the future. However, going down this line of thought potentially creates problems for the Calvinism perspective.
        1. Just finished NT305 segment 3. anybody else taking the course and wish to collaborate together?
          1. Hello all, When I enter "Bible study," then "Logos document," then select "Reading List," I receive the message, "You do not have a copy of this document." I have followed already. Is there something else I need to do?
            1. I think you need to click on Actions and Connect to get access.
          2. I just purchased this course. I could not find very many reviews on it anywhere. I would encourage you all who finished the class to please write a review. They are so helpful for someone trying to choose a course.
            1. I enjoyed the course. Since I'm PCA there were a few spots where I didn't agree, but by and large it's a good course. There is a bit on NPP, that gives you probably more than you want, but at least you'll be aware. I'll do up a review as soon as I read a few to see how it's done.
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            Glenn Martinez NT305 New Testament Theology Response “If you were to die tonight and come face to face with the Creator, what reasons would you give to enter into heaven?” This is the first question that we ask in our Foundations class for prospective members in our church. Having taught the class several times, I can attest to the multiplicity of answers that such a question roduces. Some people appeal to their upbringing in the church as the basis of their acceptance into heaven. Others suggest that they have led a relatively good life and thus should be let in. Our goal in raising the question, however, is to begin to orient the reader to the Gospel truth that Jesus and his work on the cross have merited our entry into heaven. This foundational principle seems to me to be what is under discussion in the debates surrounding the New Perspectives on Paul (NPP). While I appreciate Prof Moo’s charitable approach to NPP thinking in recognizing its strengths, I also agree that there are significant demerits in the line of thinking that should be dealt with in a serious way. I would have never thought that something so central as the doctrine of justification could be placed under the cloud of suspicion that the NPP has created. N.T. Wright puts forward a metaphor that supposedly characterizes the conversation between Reformed Christians and the NPP. He likens the conversation to one between a geocentrist and a heliocentrist. It is as if the heliocentrist (i.e., the proponent of the NPP) clearly and laboriously demonstrates the fact that the earth moves around the sun through a variety of physical and astromonical proofs. Even so, the geocentrist refuses to listen and grabs the heliocentrist by the hand to observe a sunrise. The sunrise is proof of the geocentrist position – the sun, in fact, revolves around the earth. The illustration is faulty on a number of grounds. First, it assumes that the NPP perspective has adduced evidence resembling that of physical and astronomical proofs. Second, and more importantly, it assumes that the position of Reformed Christians is one of blind faith or, at a minimum, of faulty interpretation of the evidence. I would argue that Wright’s analogy breaks down because it attributes too much to the NPP and too little to the traditional Reformed view. The Reformed doctrine of justification is opposed by Wright, Dunn and Sanders on a number of grounds. Sanders argues that the Reformed doctrine must be erroneous because it fails to respond directly to his notion of covenantal nomism – a notion he suggests was the position of Judaism during the first century. I find it unconvincing to say that Paul meant something different than what he said simply because other ideas existed at the time he said it. Sanders is unable to refute the notion of variegated nomism, but even so he assumes that Paul must have been in dialogue with his own view of nomism. Dunn extends this argument by proposing a unique meaning for the phrase “works of the law.” Under Dunn’s interpretation, works of the law are to be distinguished from works. Paul is not saying, according to Dunn, that salvation is not by works but that it is not by the works of the law which refers to specific ethnic practices that marked off Jews from the nations. Wright’s position is perhaps the most audacious. Wright rejects the notion of imputation and creates a dual view of justification that distinguishes between present justification and future justification. Present justification is nothing more than the declaration that a person has become part of the People of God. Future justification, on the other hand, will take place on Judgment Day and will include the whole of the life lived. These ideas are clearly contrary to the historical understanding of Paul and in direct contradiction to many of Paul’s own statements and formulations. How, for example, can Wright’s view of present and future justification be reconciled to Paul’s clear teaching in Romans 8:1 that there is now no condemnation in Jesus Christ? I agree with John Piper’s view that the NPP far from being simply a trend within Biblical Theology is rather a direct threat to pastoral ministry and discipleship. It strikes at the very heart of what the church teaches and, I would add, offers no compelling reason for doing so. What is the benefit to pastoral ministry and discipleship that is achieved in the NPP? I have yet to read a convincing answer to that question. While I agree with Prof Moo’s list of strengths of the NPP and while I would also add that it’s focus on covenant is an additional strength that Prof Moo does not specifically identify, I think there are more positive ways of bringing these strengths to the discussion without having to sacrifice cardinal doctrines with huge pastoral implications.
            1. "Follower", not Frank Vivier but Carol--I have several questions --How does one become a member? NT 305's link to this page promises a notes document that highlights readings for the course-where would I look for them? Are the readings after the videos required? How do I know what the abbreviations are for books--I know I have some in a hard copy? --Just curious
              1. - Are the readings after the videos required? - No, they are optional, that is, in terms of understanding any course author's lessons or taking the tests, they will not be asked about or interacted with. However, many users claim these readings are very beneficial to really get deep into the course topic. Some even hold these readings in a higher regard as the video and textbook of courses.
              2. - How do I know what the abbreviations are for books--I know I have some in a hard copy? - The courses tool has a page which gives the titles (see screenshot), along with a lock symbol indication those you don't own in Logos. Also the Excel spreadsheet you see next to the notes document in this group will have the titles.
              3. Thank you very much! I greatly appreciate your help. Blessings
            2. Really enjoying this course. I've just found though that a few references to the first edition of the IVP Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels are not also connected to the second edition (which I own). Is this deliberate?
              1. I'm really looking forward to following this course. I have been studying  the theology within Ezekiel so it will be good to get  into studying some NT theology . I have heard a lot of good things about Moo as well so I'm looking forward to getting to hear his view on these matters.
                1. Hi William, the files are a little hidden. on the left hand side there is a menu titled community. under this you will see "bible study", click on this and a sub menu should open and the files should be one of these tabs
                2. Thanks Dave. Got it.