• I only spent a couple of minutes to throw down some ideas I've been pondering on this project. I'll add more later. The document also allows others to edit/comment on it. Feel free to do so.

  • Introductory courses from the FaithlifeTV + Mobile Ed church subscription to initially work from are listed here. There is also another tab about how to get individuals started with Logos for free.

  • Another spreadsheet with possible courses to do customized Moodle work for. ThirdMill.org , biblicaltraining.org, and bible.org . https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q-JIJPFGzeN3Gd1Ml7QbnJ3FBUfYprmOonWe3uWgpZ8/edit?usp=sharing

  • Links to various ministries that offer training resources online [usually free]. Most don't have a good way to do the training with a group, hence why something like a Moodle course would be a win-win situation.

  • Just got this flier about FaithLife TV Church in my email and I noticed something, maybe for the first time, about group study at the bottom and the bundle coming with the Sermon tool. It stated, "Get Creative with Small Group Curriculum. If it’s in your Sermons archive, it’s on your church’s Faithlife TV. Upload brief talks, discussion questions, and more to encourage your church to grow in the Word." So, my RFE [Request for Enhancement] idea that arose while reading this was: A) What if Faithlife Sermon had an A1) export to Moodle Course format? A2) appropriate tagging/options also to design "sermon" to be more course like. So a slide with "questions" on it, was embedded also to be interactive on export? B) And if Faithlife Sermon also allowed one to import the table of contents or outline from a Mobile EDU course? That would really give a complete educational environment using Faithlife/Logos and Moodle. moodlecloud.com has free hosting and might not be that hard to redirect to Faithlife for sso login [especially if Faithlife develops a partnership with them]. Another option was in regards to licensing. An option that would set an account for "Faithlife TV Church" as inactive after a set time period of inactivity. This would give Churches more confidence in developing training programs around this offering without fears of costs for licenses not being used. Example, after 60 days of inactivity of faithlife TV, Mobile EDU, etc usuage - disable their Faithlife Tv Church subscription. Present user with notice about contacting church leadership about having it re-enabled. This should be a option in the configuration of the license - not all members will need this, for example.
    Biblical Video and Christian Movies for Your Whole Church | Faithlife TV
    Access a biblical video library with over 7,000 video lectures on evangelism, discipleship, leadership, counseling, apologetics, and more.
    tinyurl.com

    2. Being able to turn anything done in Sermons with a click of the export option to Moodle course, where at least 80% of the work was done, is highly attractive. Also, when you then get into the advantages of Sermons being able to be shared amongst ministries - wow, just wow! There could be free/open source moodle courses around the MobileEDU videos within months. And also, the infrastructure to keep them up to date and be able to contribute to them.

    3. I'm currently attending Liberty University and with that, I started pondering the price numbers on this and my suggested ideas - why would not every Christian university push this allows to their student body? For dollars on the head per student, it's a complete no-brainer.

    4. Import and export FAQ - MoodleDocs
      docs.moodle.org

  • Hm, integration of Logos WorkFlows into Moodle is a very interesting idea. Just saw this article, still mulling over ideas on it.
    Logos for Spiritual Formation: the Lectio Divina Workflow - LogosTalk
    Guest writer Adam B. Shaeffer holds an MA in Spiritual Formation from Talbot School of Theology and a PhD in Theology from Durham University. He is already a big fan of Logos 8. In this post, I’ll be exploring one of the ways Logos 8 can play a vital role in our spiritual formation. One …
    blog.logos.com

    2. Maybe if Logos can see a larger use case for Workflow, where it can also server as a group study aid [teach developed & student use] they might include it under the free or a low-cost 'disciple student package'. Assuming that the loss leader will eventually lead to purchases as the student comes to know the power of Logos. Lol, learning that a book purchased from Logos/ebook.Faithlife goes much further in Logos rather than Kindle. The workflow still might be useful even if the 'teacher/lead' has it and not the student in preparing the questions, quizes, etc. that one might develop for Moodle. I need to see what type of export options there might be for a workflow. Workflow is also available in app.logos.com , which means there could also be a chance to embed a workflow url within the Moodle course. If there's a way to setup the url that would send each student to their version of the workflow that would be great. Did you see my how-to on get the free Logos stuff at https://kissofpeace.me/wp/2018/11/15/free-software-and-resources-for-biblical-studies/ ?
      Free Software and Resources for Biblical Studies. – Kiss of Peace
      Posted on November 15, 2018November 15, 2018 by adminFree Software and Resources for Biblical Studies. Anyone doing biblical studies should do this right now. Some of these free resources are available now but might not be later. The free basic versions of 7 are still available but the free version…
      kissofpeace.me

    3. That's a great post. I'll have to dive into when I have some more time. I keep trying to make things simple for people in my church. Some of them are not very computer savvy, so all the URLs and such cause them to shy away.

    4. I have to do two exams today, but I'll have time Tues-Thursday to maybe follow up with you and I could help create a more simple how-to document that might be better suited for your members. Where the target audience isn't computer savvy but it's expected they have someone from the church to also help out if needed. I think it would be a good youth group project actually. Have some teenagers volunteer one evening to help setup Logos/etc for church members. Which would actually be a good idea as to indirectly exposed the same youth members to Logos and Faithlife also. Let me know if you want to pursue this more.

  • To really implement this idea well, which is to leverage Logos and Faithlife TV + Mobile Ed church subscription as a natural choice for communities and ministries, there's couple of things Logos/Faithlife might want to do. * First, make sure all Faithlife resources are available within the Logos.com store front. I have about 8K invested in Wordsearch simply because I wasn't able to locate many bible study programs at logos.com . I later found out, many of them were available for purchase though via ebook.faithlife.com . I posted a RFE here also about it - https://faithlife.com/posts/1625455 . * Second, to leverage this idea that Faithlife/Logos is the natural vendor of choice for a complete education system that scales from individual, groups, and remote groups, it might be worth wild to see if there's a partnership that can be had with RightNow media. I have access to that library via my Liberty.edu student account. There's many bible study programs available there. Even if it was an addon purchase upgrade, it would be great to have that library also be available via the FaithLifeTV and MobileED views under my church subscription. And for each video course also be available within Logos software [either as the free version that sometimes available or for purchase at Logos].

    1. partnership with RightNow might be as easy as setting up a SSO interface between the two groups and then the various API requirements for their library offerings to be displayed within the Faithlife/Logos sites/tools.

    2. My church subscribes to both RightNow Media and Faithlife TV. I believe RightNow is more "accessible" to most congregants and study groups. However, if someone wants a deep dive, I point them to Faithlife TV. Having both together would be helpful because I could point folks to one place. However, I doubt the two will ever become one. In the end business decisions must be made. I understand that. I also want Faithlife to stay in business for a long, long time since I've invested so much in all their tools ;)

  •  — Edited

    [Update] Because of the way faithlife works, I'm going to default to making new followers members also of the group. If you want to be a member rather than just a follower, please let me know. I'm not sure of the protocol here on faithlife - if it's rude to just invite those that followed or not.

    2. that would be great. I would love to figure out how to leverage what I cann within the Faithlife portal of software when it's better suited to the tools/options that might come from a Moodle server setup. I have some other ideas I hope to write down, formally, about how Faithlife+MobileEd and Logos could create a nice synergy with Moodle and that market place [which would also include universities and Christian schools].

    3. thanks for the information. I'm just about to head out for the night with my wife but I was able to skim the url's you shared. For Boxcast, I can see how if the circumstances were warranted the cost would be justified. From my testing the last year, I found rabb.it to work as a free solution where you are trying to discuss [remotely - teleconference call] a video from Faithlife with those that are in your subscription. This can also work when you might have someone that can't be onsite and only has a mobile phone. Where they can watch/listen to the video with the group via rabb.it in a browser and be dialed in to the conference number.
      Rabbit - The way to watch anything with anyone
      Discover, share and watch video content anywhere on any device with your friends. React and respond while watching your favorite shows together. And it's free!
      rabb.it

    4. going over your post again this afternoon, I was able to catch the subtle difference of what you were also suggestion rather than what I had initially thought. I see your solution ends up with a method to share out videos to those in your faithlife group so that they can then also watch them via the Faithlife TV interface - which is cool by the way. I'm uploading a test video now, so I can see what other advantages would be had with this method vs. let's say someone hosting it on youtube.

  • Someone asked in another thread about the advantages of using Moodle. Here's some items I wrote off the top of my head. At some point, I should make a more formal document on it - an FAQ. I'll probably have to add some things in there about open source since I can't assume others will know what that means and how it impacts stuff like documentation and development. Where we would have a central repository or wiki server for all the documentation related to the class that others can "pull/sync" from and also contribute upstream to. * Moodle provides a way to have accountability for those in your study group. * Moodle provides a way for individuals to work with others on a course topic as to keep them motivated and focused to complete it. Most individual studies by people ever are completed. I believed it's because of a lack of fellowship and also peer-pressure to met expectations. * It allows you to offer bible study class not only in-person but allow the inclusion of remote users. * Moodle allows you to extend, for example, your once a week in-person study group into an activity that can also occur 24x7 remotely. Moodle has a very good mobile app. * In theory, it can act as a local county/city resource hub for education and group activities for all local churches. Instead of everyone doing something by themselves, you can leverage the once and done process so all can benefit. * Once a course is done, it can be shared/exported to other Moodle servers. This allows it to be multiplied to other ministries easily. * You could close or leave open a "class" within Moodle. One advantage of leaving it open is, the next session you do could grow off of the content/submissions left by the classes before it. Example content could be: discussion boards, papers submitted, etc. * There are free hosting options for moodle. * You can create course content and activities around, for example, video's you might want to teach from. Day 1, link to first video on Acts 1-3 of a series you found on Youtube, for example. Then in Moodle, you could create a discussion topic for Acts 1-3, a quiz, and maybe a paper submission requirement.

    1. Mailing list setup. osed@kissofpeace.me http://kissofpeace.me/mailman/listinfo/osde_kissofpeace.me
      Osde Info Page
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      1.  — Edited

        Ideally, one of the programs that we would do Moodle course content for is around the works of Michael Heiser. With his recent release of, "What does God want?", we now have a good introduction into the ANE/Kingdom of God worldview to inform your fellow friends and congregation with. Currently, it's released on Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K31MS5M/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i8 . After that Moodle course was done, we could then proceed to his other works that are also available in Logos. https://www.logos.com/product/129571/the-unseen-realm-bundle
        The Unseen Realm Bundle (8 vols.)
        Get an unfiltered look at what the Bible really says about the unseen world. Dr. Michael Heiser’s goal is to help readers view the biblical text unfiltered by tradition or by theological presuppositions. This 8-volume bundle includes The Unseen Realm, Supernatural, The Bible Unfiltered, and I Dare You Not to Bore Me with the Bible as well as two study resources.
        www.logos.com

        2. I know Mike Heiser from his various FL articles, but I'm not familiar with "PugCast," what is it about, anybody know?

        3. the pugcast youtube channel is with Dr. Heiser, his son, and their two pugs [dogs].

        4. Ok, now I do think there was a dog in one of the panels. One of our cats is named Baxter, if I ever have a podcast I can call it BaxterCast!