• I would like an ancient Hebrew font on Logos so that I can see the Bible in the way that it looked to the Jews just before they left for Babylon in 586 BC. This product will be much more interesting then. I will be able to practice my reading of the ancient font so that I can more easily read ancient inscriptions in museums. I live near the British Museum which has some things written and inscribed in this old font. I sometimes read the New Testament in the Sahidic Greek Bible that Logos sells. It is an ancient Greek translation that uses the Codex Sinaiticus font . I use the Lexham Greek Lexicon to look words up when I need them. It finds all the different morphology of each word easily that other lexicons don't. It feels more authentic to read the New Testament in this version because it is very like the original manuscripts because the font is the same as the original manuscripts. Everything is in capital letters like the original manuscripts were written. It feels like it is 2000 years old when I read it this way. Other Greek versions feel very modern and I don't feel the history so much.
    1. I have a physical copy of this book. I love the concept of studying Hebrew this way. However, this book is a complete mess. You go to the reference number to find answers and it frequently sends you to the wrong place in the grammar section. Somebody needs to do a huge amount of editing work on the book to get it to work properly. A friend of mine nearly gave up learning Hebrew altogether because of this book. He only continued learning Hebrew because he learned it from Page H Kelley's book (Logos is working on this book at the moment - an excellent book for the basics). I might try this book one day to see if Logos has fixed the hundreds of mistakes in this book. I would check to see if they have fixed them very quickly and if they have not fixed them I would get my money back quickly before the month is over.
      1. Just wondering... were the mistakes fixed?
      2. The mistakes were not fixed on my paper copies. I don't know if Logos is allowed to fix them without breaking copyright. There must have been literally hundreds of mistakes. The mistakes were so important and so bad that it was almost impossible to use the book to learn things. It was very frusting indeed to use the book. it is already difficult to keep looking things up as you have to do with this type of learning. It is much worse when the link frequently sends you to the completely wrong place as it does in this book and you can't find where you should go to. It is a lovely idea of how to learn Hebrew. It is just a shame that the paper copies (two editions) that I have look like they have not been edited at all. They look like a proof of concept without any mistakes corrected in a very rough draft. It is a total mess.
    2. This should be interesting. I am told that the Samaritan Text, The Septuagint and Flavius Josephus have an extra 650 years compared to the Hebrew Masoretic Text in the Genesis 11 genealogy. It seems that the Masoretic Text took the 650 years out of 7 peoples lives so that it could make Shem live at the same time as Melchizedek. The idea was to prove that Melchizedek was actually Shem so that the Jews could invalidate Jesus being a priest after the order of Melchizedek in the book of Hebrews. If Melchizedek was Shem it would invalidate the claim because Shem was the ancestor of Levi and hence Melchizedek would be tied into the Levitical priesthood rather than being completely independent of it. Please look at "Were the Pyramids Built Before the Flood? (Masoretic Text vs. Original Hebrew)" on www.youtube.com to see a 31 minutes 50 secs video explaining it all in detail. The video shows that this 650 years answers a lot of other awkward questions at the same time. It should be interesting to see what Genesis 11 actually looks like in the Samaritan Text for myself compared to the Masoretic Text.
      1. I have been studying Hebrew for 12 years now and have studied Greek even longer. If I was starting from nothing I would have used these book and Page H Kelley's Biblical Hebrew An Introductory Grammar at the same time. I have had a quick look at the Hebrew book. This book gets you straight into Genesis chapters 1 to 8. This makes the study very interesting because you can see that everything that you learn is actually helping you to read Genesis. I have found in the last year that reading big chunks of text makes you better at the language at a faster rate. You don't need to put too much emphasis on learning vocabulary by this method. All you do is keep reading each section until it feels like you are reading English. This builds up your vocabulary without too much effort. This is an excellent method because if you learn lists of vocabulary there is a filter in your brain that tells you that you don't need to remember it. When you see, hear or smell things there is no filter in your mind that stops you from remembering what you read. That is why you can remember what your conversation was about for a long time. But you won't be able to remember a meaningless list of information very well at all. You won't remember everything that you read but you will remember much more that if you just try to remember lists of vocabulary. I think that these books are probably the best method of learning these languages. I recommend that you find someone else that will learn these languages with you. It will keep your moral up. I found that to be hugely important particularly in the early stages.
        1. Go Yong Li Samuel: Believe it or not my study routine is to sit in front of my Logos books once a week for about 4 hours. I have been doing this for 12 years. I can read chunks of Hebrew but if it gets difficult or if I haven't studied it before I need help with the vocabulary. The most important thing is that somebody else comes around to my house and we study together. This keeps the discipline up and the moral. I worked towards getting a GCSE exam in Biblical Hebrew in England. It was a hard exam even though it is for 16 year olds. I passed that. We now continue to study together. I am now finding that that the best way to study languages is to read material in it as soon as you have learnt enough basics. I keep rereading the same material until it feels like I am reading English. I found out that there is no filter to make you forget things if you hear, see or smell things. Hearing or this case seeing means that it must seem like English to you. In the early days I was trying to learn list of vocabulary. If I used the method I am using in the last few months I am sure that my Hebrew would be much better than it is today. My methods of learning have slowly got better over the 12 years that I have studied it.I am finding that learning lists just goes into your short term memory. Your mind filters it out and rejects it as unnecessary so you forget it quickly. You don't remember meaningless lists of things. You do remember conversations you had with other people. You will remember the Bible stories. That is probably why the Bible is written as lots of stories. You remember them easier than just lists of facts. I also have various Hebrew Bibles and Hebrew Lexicons on a Kindle which I use when I travel etc. I have also put some Hebrew into a Word Document and then converted it to PDF. I have then copied the PDF onto the Kindle. I have noticed that I had to change all my Hebrew and English notes on Word into Arial font. It would not work properly until I changed it into Arial font. This is not as good as working on a PC but it does help. I learned the basics from Page H Kelley's "Biblical Hebrew: An Introductory Grammar" which s under development by Logos. Get yourself a paper copy. It is very good. Study every little detail in this book. Don't take any shortcuts. If you take shortcuts you will find that you will have to go back to learn those details again. On Logos I have got the Hebrew text Westmonasteriensis 4.18. I have loads of lexicons. We have learned most of our Hebrew from the lexicons in Logos. The Lexham Lexicon is very good as well as the more famous ones. it is also a bargain. I have also found that AKOT (Analytical Key to the Old Testament). is excellent to have. It gives a quick overview of the whole verse by parsing every single Hebrew word in the whole Old Testament. It cost a lot but it is worth it. We take notes on each verse as we read it. We start by using AKOT as a template before we add extra notes from all the lexicons. As we have gone on in time the notes are less necessary. They were most necessary in the earlier times. They are still useful now though. I hope this helps.
          1. Robert. I really enjoyed your comments. I have made several thousand ANKI cards to study from. Some are vocabulary, others are short expressions and even complete verses. I have also used Kelley as well as other grammars to focus my learning efforts. At the end I ended up BBH the most. But working on my reading and preparing my cards has really begun to pay off these last few years. Like you, I feel that my earlier efforts did not yield as good a result. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
        2. I have used the previous edition to learn Hebrew. I have looked briefly at this new edition. It looks very similar to the old edition. The book makes it look easier to learn than it actually is. I tried to do shortcuts by not learning every detail that this book gives to distinguish between different types of verbs. Big mistake. You need to learn as much detail as you can to distinguish the verb types (called stems). I had to go back and relearn them from this book. You will learn enough Hebrew from this book to start reading simple passages from the Bible. You will of course need lexicons and grammar books to help you. (the Analytical Key to the Old Testament is also a great help if you can afford it). This book makes it as easy as possible. It is a very good book. I recommend that you learn with someone else if possible. It keeps the moral up so that you can get through the book and into reading passages as soon as possible. You will learn your vocabulary from reading the passages and getting to know them like you are reading English. Someone at Logos should set up a system where you can meet up with another customer of Logos and learn Hebrew or Greek together.
          1. I am learning Hebrew. This book is the basis of all my notes on the Hebrew text (and I do lots of them). After I copy the passage from this book into my Word document I then look up the lexicons to put more detail into my notes. After that I would look at grammars and then finally maybe commentaries. This book gives an overall view of what is happening in the Hebrew. I would like it to have more details from lexicons in it to satisfy all my needs in one book. However, I am grateful that this book gives as much basic information that it does give. It is a wonderful help to learning Hebrew. I would say that it is my most important help That I have. I have a lot of other books but this one helps more than any other.
            1. It is OK. However, it falls apart when you use it to study the Book of Hebrews. Quiet often it does not have the correct meaning for the vocabulary in the Book of Hebrews. I would really like to have Trenchard's "A Concise Dictionary of the New Testament" instead which uses definitions from Bauer (the best Greek lexicon of NT Greek. However, it is large). Trenchard's dictionary is a similar size to Newman's dictionary but it will not you down like Newman's does when things get difficult.
              1. Is this the Arabic 1923 Cairo Edition of The Quran?