Steven Alvey
- Incredibly DISAPPOINTING and surprisingly lacking in basic things it should have. No idea why there are so many positive reviews. The main selling point of this item is that it's notes are meant to give you cultural context and background for the era and locations the scriptures talk about... but there are some serious problems: #1 Notes at the beginning of the books are very short and sparse and give very little that I couldn't have found on wikipedia. #2 Verse by verse notes often contain very little background/cultural information and instead give typical bible commentary information that you'd expect (and probably already own) in other commentaries. #3 When there is a cultural note, it is often frankly useless. e.g. verse 1 greetings. ----Note: Ancient writers often greeted their recipients. Yeah, it's that useless and that's not much of an exaggeration. In fact, here's a direct example straight from the text: 1:4 I always thank my God for you. -----[Note]: Letters sometimes included thanksgivings. Wow, really? Here's another useless one: 4:16 imitate me. -----Disciples often learned from their teachers’ behavior; children also imitated parents (see note on v. 14). Seriously... who wrote that? How is that an illuminating cultural contextual note? Oh wait, here's another one: 11:1 Follow my example. ---- As in ch. 9, Paul appeals to his own example; other sages sometimes also did this, and disciples were expected to follow their teachers’ example. Another: 10:15 judge for yourselves. -------Speakers often appealed to hearers in this way. Honestly, who approved this thing and what on earth are all the 5-star reviewers referring to? These are meaningless notes! And there are a TON of them. And they "often" use the words "often" or "frequent" without citing ANY source or explanation. Which brings us to #4. #4 And this one is seriously frustrating: almost ZERO citations or references outside the bible. ...the whole point of this is to provide historical/cultural context about the place and times the scriptures are talking about or written in... and there are almost ZERO citations (at least in the text as visible in Logos). With almost zero exceptions, the only citations are bible cross-references... but ALL commentaries have those... this is supposed to be different, it’s supposed to be about the extra-biblical context that the bible is set in. So why are there almost ZERO external references? if you’re going to tell me a relevant fact about, say, the city of Corinth, that relates to something Paul said, great! But… I want to know WHERE that fact came from. Did you… make it up? Did you, exaggerate or selectively choose that fact to skew the scripture verse to your preferred interpretation? Could you… maybe… you know, do that thing you’re supposed to do in an academic resource and CITE A SOURCE!?? Sometimes the note was so worthless that it needs no citation, like the ones above, e.g. "Some ancient writers often picked their noses" would not need a citation, because we could have guessed that was the case (but that's exactly why such a note shouldn't even exist, and the notes are “often” really that bad). But other times, ‘the "often" this or that or "frequently" this or that’ type notes might be useful, but there are NO citations! Or - bizarrely, it will cite another verse from the very same book of the bible you are reading as it's source for the claim! how does that make sense in a commentary or study bible that is meant to give you external cultural context? Sometimes the note was so worthless that it needs no citation, like the ones above, e.g. "Some ancient writers often picked their noses" would not need a citation, because we could have guessed that was the case (but that's exactly why such a note shouldn't even exist). I am honestly just blown away by A- How short this falls from the hype and claims in the product description… and B - How many people are giving it 5-star reviews for some reason. I honestly think they thought this would be a cool idea and perhaps were excited about the biz/profit potential too, and then they discovered just how little info they had to fill the pages and decided to fill the emptiness with the useless types of notes like the ones I pasted above, just so there’d be something there. And then I guess they got academically lazy and decided not to cite almost ANY extra-biblical sources at all for their extrabibilical cultural context notes.... And then they looked at the monstrosity and said.... “yeah, we should definitely charge people $40 bucks for this. Heck most of them don;t even use the resources they buy and will leave us 5 stars just based on how excited we made them feel about it in the product description in the store. So what have we got to lose?” IDK, maybe I’m being too harsh. Anyway, that’s all I’ve got. Thanks. ----Note: Ancient writers often said “thanks” when concluding a statement. ...ROFL
- I am assuming you "returned" your copy to Logos for a refund? As for me, while not everything is useful, I found enough useful to warrant the pre-pub price.
- Don't listen to him. This book is very informative, a must-have.
- Be warned, lots of what traditional Christians would consider modernist and liberal heresies in this. It says the serpent was not the devil, but that a writer wrote that part to discourage people from attending "serpent-related" pagan fertility temples. Also the usual Protestant/Post-Vatican 2 Catholic nonsense about supplemental authors (e.g. this entire paragraph was added later by "P" in 400 BC, to add their special angle or twist etc etc). Really unfortunate.
- Good call. Thanks!