• The view taken by the friends is the following: that sin and suffering are measured out by God, as it were, ounce for ounce, so much sin, so much suffering. One man is just so much better than another, as he is happier. He who is as unfortunate as Job, must assuredly be, not merely a sinner, but a criminal. To doubt this is to do dishonor to God. And even if, in the case of a man suffering severely, like Job, we do not actually know of any great crime, we must still assume that he has committed one, in order to save God’s honor. Nor may we allow ourselves to be deceived, even though appearances be of the fairest kind. These only show that the pretended saint is a thoroughly skilled hypocrite. Gems from Tozer. Of 18

    1. Much of our difficulty as seeking Christians stems from our unwillingness to take God as He is and adjust our lives accordingly. We insist upon trying to modify Him and to bring Him nearer to our own image. The flesh whimpers against the rigor of God’s inexorable sentence and begs like Agag for a little mercy, a little indulgence of its carnal ways. It is no use. We can get a right start only by accepting God as He is and learning to love Him for what He is. As we go on to know Him better we shall find it a source of unspeakable joy that God is just what He is.

      1. Thank you. He is God. Ps. 16:11 the fulness of Joy

    2. God’s attributes are not God; that is, I say that God is self-existent, but that’s something that I posit about God—that isn’t God. I say that God is holy, but holiness is not God. I say that God is wisdom, but wisdom is not God. God is God! Would you like a definition of attribute as I shall use it? It is something which God has declared to be true of Himself. And one thing God has declared to be true of Himself is, “I AM THAT I AM”—I exist. Not “I will exist,” or “I did exist,” but “I do exist.” The philosophy of existentialism begins with the propositions “I exist” and “There is no God.” But the Christian believes that God is the original existence, that He said “I AM.” And because God is, everything else that is, is. A W Tozer. The Attributes of God, Vol. 2

      1. The gradual disappearance of the idea and feeling of majesty from the Church is a sign and a portent. Our God has now become our servant to wait on our will. “The Lord is ‘my shepherd’” we say, instead of “‘The Lord’ is my shepherd,” and the difference is as wide as the world.

        1. The gradual disappearance of the idea and feeling of majesty from the Church is a sign and a portent. Our God has now become our servant to wait on our will. “The Lord is my shepherd” we say, instead of “The Lord is my shepherd,” and the difference is as wide as the world. Tozer, A.W. (1979). The Knowledge and Pursuit of the Most High.

          1. I have read all of Tozers books and have not found where her mentions Oswald Chambers in any of his books. That just amazes me as they are two of my favorites writers.

            1. Wow all of them. I wish my schedule would free up some. He must be a wealth of insight for you. I was thinking about getting his entire collection, but fear the content would be redundant, as many authors repeat. Does he? Which author has the best insights or do you like the most and why, if you wouldn't mind?

            2. I haven't noticed that much redundancy. He might have some but the way he leads to the attributes of God so many ways I just love his writings. He just leads you to God in so many ways. He wrote some of the books but the rest are taken from his sermons. The books he wrote are my favorite. Some of the names of the books have been renamed as the years have gone by so they would be the same I also love Oswald Chambers writings. I have read all of his works also. After getting his collection I am always using his collection for searches as I also do Tozer. I also love Charles Spurgeon and also use him for searches. This are the three I search for quotes and topic searches the most as for authors. I read all the above before I got Logos. Sure wish I would have had it sooner.

            3. That's Good. God Bless you.
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