Jeannine K Brown
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- Curious, in your focus on Gal. 3:8, you point out in the Greek the same word for Gentiles and nations is "ethnos" in the NT stating that the reference back in Gen. 12:3 in the LXX would also be the same. However, when I opened the LXX to Gen. 12:3 in my LES with the reverse interlinear, it did not have "ethnos" but instead used another Greek word, "phylai". I am now confused. Is the LES wrong or does it use a different manuscript than Paul was using? Are you using a different manuscript than Lexham? I followed the instructions given in a previous video by a member of Logos Pro Team explaining how to do this and follow along. The HB Swete Edition agrees with the LES. Is the LXX like the MT and has so many variances that you have chosen some other manuscripts than the one chosen by Lexham and Swete? I am new to Logos and did not know where to post this or how to find out more info on why you would choose to differ with the LES and the HB Swete interlinear unless you have other manuscripts of the LXX that I would have to consult which I do not currently have access to. Your comments can be found specifically just after 2:45 in the video "Citations: Focus on Gal. 3:8" Since I only have a subscription to Faithlife TV, I only have access to the videos alone and not the entire class where I could use the "Ask the Author" function. I tried the forums, then realized I might try coming here. Is this the appropriate place to ask such a question or is there a better place to Ask the Author elsewhere when one does not have the entire course to use the Ask the Author function there? I am just trying to understand you more clearly? Thank you all at Faithlife for helping me to greater understand the Word of God!
Theo — EditedHere's a reply from a forum I had posted to before I found this page to connect with you directly! I thank you for taking the time to respond as many don't or are busy as well. BTW, sorry to disturb you in your busy season. I totally understand. Does his comments help? It seemed to help me. (Reply when you can.) "The LES is a translation of Swete's edition of the LXX. Both Swete and Rahlfs (the other primary edition of the LXX) use φυλαι (phylai) here. Neither Rahlfs nor Swete list a variation for this term in this passage. Gal 3:8 also could be a reference to Gen 18:18, and the word εθνος is used there. My guess is that Dr. Brown mistakenly referred to one instead of the other. " --Rick Brannan At any rate, I am interested when I am free as well to return to the connection between Paul's use of Gentiles and nations as it relates to Gen. 10-12 where maybe God's promise incorporates using Abraham initially to make the nations who rebelled to become jealous in a sense and return to God via Israel's example. Unfortunately, Israel even in two parts end up rebelling instead. The return from exile does not bode well either. So again Israel ends up rejecting their Messiah. Then Paul comes with a message going back to those nations (represented by those gathered at Pentecost in Acts 2?) and reclaiming them and now God will use the nations to make Israel jealous as they were designed to as God's example of a people who united with him are blessed. So I see God making the nations jealous with Israel and yet then in Paul the reversal. In the beginning, we have an Eden then the rebellions and with Christ we have a reversal to eventually bring us back to Eden in Rev. 22 at the close. So yes, I am looking for any strong connections linking "gentiles" with "nations". Both your use and the response on the forum does help me see the text appears to be going in that direction! Thank you!
- I also would like to apologize that I did not give you better reference to which video to save you time in going back to review.
- Ken, I appreciate hearing the focus of your own study on Israel and the nations in the Old Testament (into the New). I also like the big picture (storied) view of Eden to the fall, restoration beginning in Israel (however faulty) and then culminating in Jesus as Messiah (reversal of fall), with the final consummation in a renewed creation (new Eden). I know I filled in some of this in my own language, but I really resonate with your way of telling the story! Jeannine
- Why physical exile? Israel is not delivered from the Romans by Jesus the Messiah.
- Great question, Joseph. Thanks for asking it. I note in the commentary on Matt 1 that: "Exile and restoration did not only describe particular historical moments in Israel’s history; these motifs also carried theological weight to describe Israel’s continuing “exile” under foreign oppression (even for those Jews in Judea/Galilee during the Second Temple period), while awaiting God’s full restorative work." So I see exile as a theological and, what I might call, a metaphorical theme, while also recognizing that many Jewish people were not living in the land of Israel (Judea/Galilee) in Jesus' day (so some sort of physical exile might be talked about). Does this help you understand my perspective a bit? Again, thanks for interacting with the book. Jeannine
- Hello my name is Scott Kay. I am eagerly awaiting your mobile ed course on studies of Biblical interpretation to get out of development and ready for download. In my church I teach Sunday school intermittently, but I think that I will become more involved by next year. This will be my first mobile course so I am very excited to learn as much as I can so that I can share this information with my Sunday School class. Anyway I just wanted to introduce myself and I'm sure I'll have a question as soon as I start digging into the course.
- Good to meet you and hear of your interest in the course. I am happy to answer questions as they arise, once you begin the course. Great to hear of your teaching in your church and the ways you want to share your learning with the group. Grace and Peace, Jeannine
- The course is a lot of fun so far! The hardest part for me was the biblical inspiration portion, I have heard so many pastors say that the Holy Spirit told the author what to write, ( the dictation view) so it was a little confusing for me at first, I just didn't know there were any other theories of inspiration. For me the supervision view makes the most sense. I love the way I'm studying the bible now that I'm looking at it from the book level. One last thing, my Sunday school classes are becoming very popular, mostly due to this course. Thanks and God bless!
- Hi there! Glad it's helpful (and fun!). I too grew up in a church were the dictation view was taught or at least assumed by all. When I work closely with the writings of the Bible, the 'handprints' of the human authors are clearer to me. But this hasn't meant that I have lost sight of the Holy Spirit; in fact, the opposite is true. I can more easily connect with the human authorship of the Bible, AND I have a clearer sense of God's superintending of the messages they wrote. The text is truly God breathed. Thanks for checking in. Jeannine
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