• NOTE: This group is for getting help constructing queries for Syntax Search (https://ref.ly/logos4/Search?kind=SyntaxSearch). If you're looking for general help on searching, visit the Logos Search group: https://faithlife.com/logos-search.
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    Hi everybody! God bless you all! Take a look at the statistical study of James L. Boyer about Classification of imperatives. It gives exegetical insights(syntax constructions) about the use of imperatives. You can find this for free online or you can purchase it from logos Grace Theological Journal 8 (1987) page 35-54. I will post a few of the syntax constructions (using opentext) according to classification Boyer talks about in GTJ 8. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. My setup: Logos 9 Platinum, Logos 9 Academic Pro
    1. i’ve posted them in the Logos Syntax Search group. I had some connection issues, so I hope you guys can download it and try it out.
  • Hey everyone, I am writing lectures for a class on Paul and trying to locate 3rd person imperatives found in 1 Timothy. When I open my morph search to choose categories for my search only first and second person options are presented to me. Any idea how to find those 3rd person ones? Thanks in advance
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      There is a bug in the morph picker where sometimes some categories are missing, depending on your screen resolution. That's due to be fixed soon, but in the meantime, the syntax is <LogosMorphGr ~ V??M3???>. More info on the bug here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/207008.aspx
    2. Thanks to both of you. Mark B I especially appreciate the extra information and the precise search string.
    3. Our Brother Mark Hoffman had the right kind of Idea, and He was remarkably Close. The answer is 3rd person imperatives need to be entered Manually on Visual Filter V??M3
  • I recently watched this video which may be from an older version of Logos. I wish Logos would put the version number in the icon or somewhere so you would know. https://www.logos.com/features/reverse-interlinears I want to do a search for every time H:lemma:אֶ֫בֶן WITHIN 5 WORDS lemma:מְסֻכָה This would be stone and covering. The above video shows this in a morphological search which I'm not sure why it would be a Morphological search but it works in the video. Using the ESV and Logos Morphology. I tried to copy in the parameters to match the video so but could not make it happen. I tried to copy and paste a picture so someone wouldn't have to watch the video but that didn't work. Anyone able to help?
    1. This picked it up in a Morphology search of the ESV. lemma:אֶ֫בֶן WITHIN 5 WORDS lemma:מְסֻכָה but there is no others. Thanks again for your insight.
    2. Apologies - in my initial test I used an incorrect lemma. As you noticed, you can use the same form as in the video when using a Morph Search whereas in a Bible Search when we enter the transliterated form the lbs/he form is used to indicate which morphology is being used. I don't know why these are different in this way
    3. Graham, could it be because the morph search is designed for more specific searches (such as specific tenses, stems, etc) while the normal search is not built for these? It seems that the Bible search is built for mostly non-biblical languages, but the morph search is amplified for the biblical languages.
    1. You're wellcome my brother. Which country are you from ? God bless you and make your study of his word fruitful in your life.
    2. You can also control which books appear in the guides by prioritizing your favorite resources in the Library browser. Also, some resources may not have information on a particular verse or grammatical category.
    3. Good evening, thank you very much for your attention, I'm from Brazil
  • "Subjunctive" is missing from morph search list. Other 5 moods are options, but not subjunctive. When I build the search command myself (insert "S" at end) the engine returns all subjunctives. But it is missing from the optional search list. E.g., 2 Timothy in NA27 w Gramcord. What am I missing?
    1. Tks for your replies. 1. I've double checked, "subjunctive" is NOT listed with the other 5 moods--regardless which resource I'm searching: UBS 5, NA28, etc. I'm using a 65" screen for a monitor, so my uploaded screenshot won't help much. Again, when I type "S" at the end of the command, all subjunctives are returned. It's just that "subjunctive" is not in the list of moods -- or in any of the other grammatical lists. Regardless which book of the NT I'm searching. Ideas?
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      I still think it's probably the display bug - when you look closely, the Future Perfect in column Tense of your screenshot is moved up and truncated, so I suspect the Subjunctive is moved up in a second column and just not showing. EDIT: The same seems to have happened to Vocative in column Case /EDIT - do you have OS scaling in Windows set to anything other than 100%?
  • Is there a way to highlight all verbs within a given range of text? I'm sure there is, but I don't have the time or patience (or more likely, the intelligence) to wade through all of the videos and helps. I waste enormous amounts of time and feel like a dullard when I attempt to find even such simple grammatical constructs. For example, in Acts 2, there are several verbs that describe the Spirit coming upon the gathered disciples; "rushing," "filled," "sitting"- also those which describe the presence of the Spirit; "fill," "filled," "full." And, I suppose, while I'm asking, a similar search for all nouns.
    1. You can use a Morph Search with the query @v (for verbs) (or an N for nouns). Details on Morph Search are at https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017524952-Morph-Search If you wish to highlight them permanently (as opposed to just while the search panel is open) you can save the Search as a Visual Filter (outlined in red in the screen shot). Information about doing this is at https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016747431-Create-a-Visual-Filter
    2. Thank you! Sorry for the delayed response. I was expecting a notification if someone replied.
  • I would like to set up a search to find various clusters of wayyiqtol clauses (at least three) within a span of two-three verses in the Hebrew Bible. Exodus 2:23-24 and 4:31 would be examples of what I'm looking for (both have four wayyiqtol clauses in the series).
    1. sorry, I meant Exodus 2:24-25
  • Is it possible to construct a syntax search query such as identifying all prepositional phrases by their preposition and the associated object. And then to possibly apply a visual filter filter with it. If possible an example of the way the syntax search query would be written and maybe advise on resources to learn how to do this. I do know how to build the visual filters...thank you.
    1. Hi Mark- Yes, that really is the bigger question. I have run down the Cascadia Syntax Graphs which are amazing. I didn't catch the template you mention and will be running that this evening. I think your thought is what I'm really getting at. Can we build a query somewhere similar to the Cascadia search you mention and that we could use to, in the end add a visual filter...I don't see that available with the Syntax search tool...
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      The "Greek Grammatical Constructions" dataset labels all prepositional phrases in the NT (in the Septuagint, too). The syntax is a little awkward, the best way to go about it is find an instance of the prep + object you'd like, right click, then find the "Prepositional Phrase" label in the left side of the context menu. Search is like: {Label Prepositional Phrase WHERE Object Lemma ~ <Lemma lbs/el/δύναμις> AND Preposition Lemma ~ <Lemma lbs/el/κατά>} (you can add in object case too if you want). Since that's with the regular search menu (Bible Search), this can be saved as a visual filter. Note that "Label" searches, however, can be slow.
    3. That's super, Rick. Thanks. I can get mostly what I want just using: [Label Prepositional Phrase] and then applying my visual filter to it. (That's good to know that is all that is needed in a Bible search.) That highlights the whole prepositional phrase, but I was hoping more to just highlight the preposition and the object of the preposition. (The search also highlights constructions with infinitives like δια το... infinitive) So, I don't know if there is a way just to search for every preposition and every object of the preposition connected with it. Thanks again!
  • I'm trying to find the lemma:πνεῦμα whenever it occurs as the object of a preposition. I thought the construction would be <person: Holy Spirit> AND <SGNTSyntacticForce = prep. obj.> OR {Section <SGNTSyntacticForce = prep. obj.>} I also put ( ) around the syntactic operators, but still no luck. When I run this search, I get every object of a preposition in the NT :-). Any help is appreciated. A further question is if I could also specify which preposition was being used. Thanks.
    1. , so your search with εκ could be done with: {Label Prepositional Phrase WHERE Preposition Lemma ~ <Lemma lbs/el/ἐκ>} INTERSECTS <Person Holy Spirit>
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      Another route to get prepositional phrases using εκ where the object is πνευμα would be to simply do a Bible Word Study on πνευμα, go to the "Preposition Use" section, and then select εκ from the generated chart graphic for the results where it is the preposition. https://ref.ly/logos4/Guide?t=My+Bible+Word+Study&lemma=lbs%2fel%2f%CF%80%CE%BD%CE%B5%E1%BF%A6%CE%BC%CE%B1
    3. Awesome, thanks so much Rick! I should have thought of the Prepositional Use section.